May 17, 2019 at 11:20 am #6014
That’s where GOT dropped the ball. A male interpreting Gabaldon’s work would probably convey differently on screen. A woman interpreting Martin’s story would also convey differently. GOT put the women in places of power but they all ended up cliche in the end. And as a viewer, personally, I gravitated towards specific nuances in the women that may not be seen by a male viewer.
I remember in the first season, my male co-worker said “WTF is up with her & those eggs” (while Drogo was having his way with Dany). I looked at him and said — she’s focusing on her purpose. She’s doing this for love of country & her family. It’s about personal sacrifice.
Not gonna speak for all men or women, of course. 🙂 But we do see things differently.May 20, 2019 at 5:21 am #6016
Okay, well, now that it’s all over, my main feelings are that I just feel like “what was the point to anything?” What was the point of Bran being a marginal character for most of the series, only to be a leader in the end? What was the point of Jon being a Targaryen? No point! What was the point of zombie undead winter monsters? That whole thing was pointless. What was the whole point of the North doing anything, when they were just going to go it alone in the end anyway? The list goes on and on. Glad they set themselves up for a bunch of sequels, since that’s pretty much all I got out of the last episode, but I would have liked a different resolution. Oh well. The showrunners already had one foot out the door and now they can go off into the sunset and ruin Star Wars now, no thank you very much.May 20, 2019 at 5:47 am #6018AbsParticipant@abs
I liked it more the episode 4 and 5, but, I, too, had my issues. They needed to do more with Bran to justify that ending. D&D didn’t do well to tell his story in seasons 7 and 8. Perhaps that conversation with Tyrion they didn’t show would have helped. Anything. Jon being a Targaryen did absolutely nothing to the show. Just made Dany more paranoid and helped drive her to Mad Queen. I don’t mind North separating. To be honest, I wanted all of them to be separate. I did like Kings and Queens being chosen by a council instead of lineage. At least Jon’s with Ghost and he finally gave his direwolf love…a direwolf that actually looked like one for once!
I have to really reflect, over time, how much the ending effects the series as a whole. It was in my top 5 of all time. Storytelling and cinematography…all of it. But the end might have ruined it.
A friend is coming over today to watch episode 5 and 6 since she doesn’t have HBO. I might be working on resumes while she’s here since I’m not sure how much I want to rewatch them again.May 20, 2019 at 9:19 am #6019
GWTW – yep, my thoughts exactly.
– the Prince that was promised. A young girl was burned at the stake for this “prince”!
– bringing Jon to life.
– Jon is a Targaryen – and the lie that killed thousands!
– Arya’s training
– Bran growing into his “power”
– Dany’s work across the seas
– Sansa conquering her demons and surviving her tortured life
What the hell was that all for? And Bran, sitting there with his unending smirk, knowing who was going to die and who was going to rule? Are you kidding me? In my eyes, he is JUST AS RESPONSIBLE for all of the innocent people that died because he knew Dany was going to do it. Let’s not say a word or else I might not get to rule. RME. GMAFB. Everyone was convinced that no one would bend a knee to Dany, but suuuuure, they’ll happily do it for Bran. Okay. I guess.
What I liked:
Yay for the animals. Drogon’s reaction and flying off with Dany. Ghost finally getting some love. Yay!
Yara recognizing that Dany wasn’t defined by her end.
Gendry looking mighty lordly.
The cinematography. Despite the story, the visuals were very well done. The lighting was gorgeous.
What would have been nice with what we were given:
1. HOw about it not taking 30 minutes to watch Tyrion walk through the keep, only to find his siblings under 1 layer of brick without a bruise on their faces.
2. Jon stand up to Dany, she screams Dracarys, Jon is engulfed in fire…but stabs her from the flames because you know….HE’S A TARGARYEN. It would have at least proved to Dany that he was the true king & maybe they could have ended with her finding a little clarity at the end of all her madness and finding peace in death. Her end was expected but so badly written.
3. Greyworm fights his way to his queen only to be killed by a UnSullied masked Arya…because you know, we spent a season on her training so might as well let her get one more kill. And Greyworm reunites with Missandei in the after life.
4. All the houses witness #3, know who the true king is and he realizes the great responsibility on his shoulders…whether he keeps it or not, I don’t care. His smoldering brooding was far from sexy in this season.
5. Bran uses his ravens to search for Drogon and in the process sees the progress in the lands that Dany liberated to perhaps, you know, remind us that she wasn’t all mad – that she served a greater purpose and tried to live up to it. Her madness was not all for naught. 8 seasons, a legacy and a sacrifice. I would have preferred that over a pathetic round table of men, debating uselessly over bad wine. GMAFB.
And I get it. The North lost a lot. But so did all the other kingdoms. Sansa’s end was so mediocre. I wanted redemption for House Stark but that was such weak sauce. I even kind of like that we came full circle to Bran….but it was written SOOOOO poorly.
May 20, 2019 at 11:11 am #6021AbsParticipant@abs
- This reply was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by Maryrose.
I’ve been reflecting a lot on Dany. I was a fan in season 1, but slowly less and less. She killed a lot of people in her rise. She was advised by Jorah, Tyrion and others to not do more harm. This is how she was written in the books. So Dany falling into her emotions and madness is not out of the realm. She has been throne happy from the beginning. She believed it was her blood right to sit on that throne. So meh, whatever with her ending. I wanted to like her more than I did. For me, part of that is Emilia Clarke. I don’t think she’s a good actress. And neither is Kit Harrington. So they both fall flat.
I don’t think the Starks have lost more, but the show focus has been more them than the other houses. It started with them in Winterfell.
Maybe in the future I’ll decide to watch the journey through episode 8×03. I don’t care to put myself through episodes 4 and 5 again, well, I’ll have to with 5 tonight since my friend is coming over to watch it.
I’m glad its done so I don’t have to wonder and debate it.May 20, 2019 at 1:13 pm #6022
Mary, yessss for Tobias. Seriously, I was like, okay a familiar face that I like seeing. Woo hoo! He was the best part of the episode haha! And yes, I am glad Ghost got some love. That was probably the only other part of the episode I actually liked.May 20, 2019 at 1:23 pm #6025
It’s hard to see him other than Black Jack though. lol When Sansa told him to sit down, I was like “daaang, you brave girl!”. lolMay 21, 2019 at 5:52 pm #6027
Haha! Yes!! I thought the same thing. I was like, dang, she’s putting evil Black Jack in his place.May 23, 2019 at 10:26 am #6029
Did you guys see Jason Momoa’s instagram of him watching the finale? He loves his Khaleesi. LOL I think I could forgive half of what I was forced to watch if I could have seen him reunited with her in the afterlife or in a vision. I adore that man!May 27, 2019 at 6:30 pm #6053
Oh yeah, I really wanted him to come back in some way. I thought that would have been cool! It could have been done well, like you said, with a vision or afterlife thing or something like that, probably just not with these writers.
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